希特勒和斯大林对彼此有什么看法

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Answered Apr 15, 2017

TLDR- Hitler and Stalin were the epoch defining figures of the 20th century and had more in common with each other than many people realise. If Hitler was the irresistible force, then Stalin was the immovable object.
TLDR——希特勒和斯大林是20世纪的划时代人物,他们之间的共同点比许多人意识到的还要多。如果希特勒是不可抗拒的力量,那么斯大林就是不可动摇的目标。

(Mustache like that wards off enemies and keeps allies in check, it will ensure the future is mine.)
(像这样的胡子可以阻挡敌人,控制盟友,这将确保未来属于我。)

(Mustache like that makes assassins lose every time but increases depression and suicide chances, i will ensure that this syle gets banned)
(这样的胡子让刺客每次都输,但增加了抑郁和自杀的机会,我会确保这个精灵被禁止)

Similarities: Hitler and Stalin are both foreigners, Hitler being an Austrian Empire (Austro-Hungarian) by birth and Stalin being a Georgian though from Russian Empire. Both had alcoholic strict fathers who beat their sons badly and mothers who loved them dearly. Both faced physical deformities, Hitler having just 1 Testicle and Stalin having a withered left arm and over-compensated in other ways. Both mass murdered their way to the top and remained in power keeping the river of blood flowing. Hitler killed about 11 million, Stalin about 10 million via various means.
相似之处:希特勒和斯大林都是外国人,希特勒出生时是奥地利帝国(奥匈帝国),斯大林是俄罗斯帝国的格鲁吉亚人。两人都有酗酒的严厉父亲,他们痛打儿子,母亲深爱着他们。两人都面临身体畸形,希特勒只有一个睾丸,斯大林左臂萎缩,在其他方面补偿过度。两个群体都谋杀了他们到达顶峰的道路,并继续掌权,保持血流不止。希特勒通过各种手段杀死了大约1100万人,斯大林杀死了大约1000万人。

See the political circle, the Soviet Union under Stalin was the Lunatic Fringe of the Left, Nazi Germany under Hitler was the Lunatic Fringe of the Right, they nearly met each other. Infact, after the war, many former Gestapo and SS police became STASI police in Eastern Germany, it was just a minor shift in ideology.
看看政界,斯大林统治下的苏联是左派的极端分子,希特勒统治下的纳粹德国是右派的极端分子,他们几乎相遇。事实上,战后,许多前盖世太保和党卫军警察成为东德的史塔西警察,这只是意识形态上的一个小转变。

with a key difference- Stalin won and lived to tell his tales of greatness.
与众不同的是,斯大林赢得了胜利,并活着讲述了他的伟大故事。

First, Stalin on Hitler:
首先,斯大林论希特勒:

As per Walter Schellenberg (not always the most truthful source) and as per a few other authors, when Stalin heard about the “Night of the Long Knives”, Night of the Long Knives – Wikipedia, Stalin for maybe once in his life became excited and proclaimed-
根据沃尔特·舍伦贝格(并不总是最真实的来源)和其他一些作者,当斯大林听说“长刀之夜”,长刀之夜——维基百科,斯大林一生中也许有一次变得兴奋并宣称——

See, that’s how it is done.
看,事情就是这样。

Stalin was extremely fascinated by Hitler’s private life and inquired deeply about his life at the Berghof and other places after the war- Stalin’s secret files on Hitler
斯大林对希特勒的私生活极为着迷,并深入询问了战后他在伯格霍夫和其他地方的生活——斯大林关于希特勒的秘密档案

He also remarked this to Zhukov –
他还对朱可夫说

So the bastard’s dead? Too bad we didn’t capture him alive!
那这个混蛋死了?可惜我们没有活捉他!

If we look at the 2 quotes on Hitler by Stalin, spaced over by more than a decade, we find admiration for a fellow dictator, perhaps even inspiration (as Stalin was a poor orator and had a bad Russian accent) and moreover envy in the one-stroke seizure of power by Hitler. In 1945, it was perhaps relief for Stalin more than anything else.
如果我们看看斯大林对希特勒的两句引用,相隔十多年,我们会发现对一个独裁者的钦佩,甚至是灵感(因为斯大林是一个拙劣的演说家,俄罗斯口音很差),而且对希特勒一举夺权的嫉妒。1945年,对斯大林来说,这也许比任何其他事情都更令人宽慰。

Second, Hitler on Stalin:
第二,希特勒对斯大林:

Hitler preceded Stalin to the grave by nearly a decade, but he said this during one of his many “Table-Talks” with his Generals-
希特勒比斯大林早死了将近十年,但他是在和他的将军们多次“桌面会谈”中说的

“Stalin is one of the most extraordinary figures in world history. He began as a small clerk, and he has never stopped being a clerk. Stalin owes nothing to rhetoric. He governs from his office, thanks to a bureaucracy that obeys his every nod and gesture. It’s striking that Russian propaganda, in the criticisms it makes of us, always holds itself within certain limits. Stalin, that cunning Caucasian, is apparently quite ready to abandon European Russia, if he thinks that a failure to solve her problems would cause him to lose everything. Let nobody think Stalin might reconquer Europe from the Urals! It is as if I were installed in Slovakia, and could set out from there to reconquer the Reich. This is the catastrophe that will cause the loss of the Soviet Empire.”
“斯大林是世界历史上最非凡的人物之一。他从一个小职员开始,他从未停止过做职员。斯大林不需要花言巧语。由于官僚机构服从他的每一个点头和手势,他从办公室开始管理。引人注目的是,俄罗斯的宣传,在对我们的批评中,总是把自己限制在一定的范围内。斯大林,这个狡猾的高加索人,显然已经准备好抛弃欧洲俄罗斯了,如果他认为解决不了她的问题会导致他失去一切。不要让任何人认为斯大林可能会从乌拉尔重新征服欧洲!好像我被安置在斯洛伐克,可以从那里出发去重新征服帝国。这是一场将导致苏维埃帝国灭亡的灾难。”

If we look deeply into Hitler’s quote on Stalin, we understand that Hitler was a lazy dictator who left the “Day-to-Day” work to his henchmen and did not understand bureaucracy and perhaps was even intimidated by it. Though on the surface the quote sounds like a total slander on Stalin’s persona and Intellect (remember, Trotsky also gave a similar quote on Stalin); it is in fact high praise- People grudgingly praise qualities which they themselves do not possess.
如果我们深入研究希特勒对斯大林的引述,我们就会明白希特勒是一个懒惰的独裁者,把“日常”工作留给了他的党羽,不了解官僚主义,甚至可能被它吓倒。尽管从表面上看,这句话听起来完全是对斯大林人格和才智的诽谤(记住,托洛茨基也对斯大林说过类似的话);事实上,这是高度赞扬——人们不情愿地赞扬他们自己不具备的品质。

Summary- The 2 probably never met despite having lived in Vienna pre WW1 in near vicinity to one other (though they may never have heard each other’s names). But they certainly had a grudging respect and a canny look into each other. Ultimately, Hitler massively underrated Stalin and this led to his defeat and downfall, Stalin also made a similar mistake early on but recovered.
总结——尽管他们住在一战之前的维也纳,彼此很近,但他们可能从未见过面(尽管他们可能从未听过彼此的名字)。但是他们确实有一种不情愿的尊重和对彼此的精明观察。最终,希特勒严重低估了斯大林,这导致了他的失败和垮台,斯大林早期也犯了类似的错误,但后来又恢复了。

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Smit Vora, An amateur student of Human History
Answered May 9, 2013

In one sentence, Hitler grossly underestimated Stalin.
一句话,希特勒严重低估了斯大林。

Now for the long answer, with some additional necessary background info.
现在是长答案,加上一些额外的必要背景信息。

For Hitler, The main goal of starting World War 2 was to secure additional free living space for the German people ‘Lebensraum’. His strong perceptions of various races had convinced him to turn east for this purpose. Hitler had a strong belief that the people of western Europe, were racially superior, whereas the most racially inferior people were the Slavic people and Jews of Eastern Europe. He had a strong prejudice against Jews, which partly stemmed from his personal experiences and partly from the ‘betrayal of Jews’ as he perceived it during the period of World War 1. Now Eastern Europe, Russia included, had the highest population of Jews. Hence, to the mind of Hitler, Eastern Europe and Russia was the ultimately a means for Lebensraum.
对希特勒来说,发动第二次世界大战的主要目标是为德国人民“勒本斯劳姆”争取更多的自由生活空间。他对各种种族的强烈看法说服他为此转向东方。希特勒坚信西欧人民在种族上是优越的,而种族上最差的人是斯拉夫人和东欧的犹太人。他对犹太人有强烈的偏见,这部分源于他的个人经历,部分源于他在第一次世界大战期间对犹太人的“背叛”。现在东欧,包括俄罗斯,犹太人人口最多。因此,在希特勒看来,东欧和俄罗斯最终是勒本斯劳姆的一种手段。

Now Invading any part of Eastern Europe, necessarily implied a clash with Russia, due to the strong domination of Russia in the region. This would also result in political pressure from the west. So Hitler reasoned that before launching an offensive on eastern Europe, he should launch an aggressive attack on the western front and subjugate possible opposition in that front and secure breathing space for his ambitious plan of securing Lebensraum. Hence the attack of France and England in the initial years of World War 2. While this was going on, Hitler used diplomatic treaties to placate Russia and keep it from interfering.
现在入侵东欧的任何地方,必然意味着与俄罗斯的冲突,因为俄罗斯在该地区拥有强大的统治地位。这也将导致来自西方的政治压力。因此希特勒推断,在对东欧发动进攻之前,他应该对西方战线发动侵略性攻击,并征服该战线上可能的反对派,为他保卫勒本斯劳姆的宏伟计划争取喘息的机会。因此,法国和英国在第二次世界大战初期发动了进攻。在此期间,希特勒利用外交条约安抚俄罗斯,阻止其干涉。

Once capturing most of mainland western Europe, Hitler was further resolved in his ultimate goal, Finally, when he did launch an attack on Eastern Europe, Russia was taken fully by surprise. Stalin pacified by Hitler’s earlier assurance had not taken enough steps to strengthen its western frontier ignoring many warnings from people around him. So within a period of few months, towards the end of summer, 1941, Germans were knocking on the doors of 3 major Russian cities in the heart of Russia with the help of the famed Blitz Krieg techniques.
希特勒一旦占领了西欧大陆的大部分地区,他最终的目标就更加坚定了。最后,当他对东欧发动进攻时,俄罗斯完全被震惊了。希特勒早先的保证安抚了斯大林,但他没有采取足够的措施来加强其西部边境,无视周围人们的许多警告。因此,在几个月的时间里,1941年夏末,德国人借助Krieg闪电战的技术,敲开了俄罗斯中部三个主要城市的大门。

Hitler seeing the initial success was further convinced in the racial superiority argument.His conviction in the ineptness of Russians due to their racial inferiority was further solidified. He was convinced that soon Stalin would surrender. It indeed was going that way so far, with most of the red arm either retreating or surrendering, being overwhelmed by this attack, called Operation Barbarossa by Hitler.
希特勒看到最初的成功,在种族优越感的争论中更加确信。他对俄罗斯人因其种族劣势而无能的信念进一步巩固了。他确信斯大林很快就会投降。到目前为止,大部分红色武装要么撤退,要么投降,被这次被希特勒称为“巴巴罗萨行动”的攻击压垮了。

However, Stalin, instead of giving-in, undertook drastic measures. While the Nazis were on the long march inside Russia, He inspired the Russian towards a patriotic war against the invaders. He rallied his army around cities like Stalingrad, He executed generals of the red army who were proponents of retreat or surrender. He issued orders to kill any fleeing soldiers of the Russian army. The Russian soldiers were left with only 2 alternatives, Fight and hope for survival or die.
然而,斯大林没有屈服,而是采取了激烈的措施。当纳粹在俄罗斯境内长征时,他激励俄罗斯人向侵略者发起爱国战争。他在斯大林格勒等城市集结军队,处决了支持撤退或投降的红军将领。他下令杀死任何逃跑的俄罗斯军队士兵。俄罗斯士兵只有两个选择,要么战斗,要么希望生存,要么死亡。

Hitler had underestimated the size of the Red army by about half and tenaciousness of Stalin. Seeing the decreasing momentum, increasing difficulties in securing supplies, Nazi commanders advised Hitler to abandon Barbarossa. However, emboldened by the magnitude of initial success coupled with his belief in the ability of the Nazi Army due to its racial superiority, Hitler sacked them and assumed full control of the army in the east. Once the Winter of 1941 kicked-in, it was all downhill for the Nazi Army. The Russian winter, justly feared by everyone, made things much more difficult for the Nazi Army. Again Hitler ignored advice of his Army commanders to abort the attack. More and more divisions of the Red army joined the war as the entire Eastern Russia was almost emptied to confront the Nazi Army.
希特勒低估了大约一半的红军规模和斯大林的顽强。看到势头减弱,保障供应的难度增加,纳粹指挥官建议希特勒放弃巴巴罗萨。然而,受到最初巨大成功的鼓舞,加上他相信纳粹军队的种族优势,希特勒解雇了他们,并完全控制了东部的军队。一旦1941年冬天开始,纳粹军队就走下坡路了。人人都有理由害怕的俄罗斯冬天,让纳粹军队的日子变得更加艰难。希特勒再次无视他的军队指挥官中止进攻的建议。越来越多的红军师加入了这场战争,因为整个俄罗斯东部几乎空无一人来对抗纳粹军队。

Hitler led his already battered army from one offensive to another. But again underestimating Stalin’s army, He faced debacle after debacle. Being now fully in-charge of the operation in the east, he made many tactical mistakes stemming from indecision and his belief in better ability of Nazis. In 1942 he marched some of his best troops to Stalingrad. Stalin also poured in large number of troops in to this city. Winter 1942, witnessed one of the bloodiest battle at Stalingrad ever seen. Both sides had staggering losses. However, Stalin’s Army did not give-in. The Battle of Stalingrad was lost in early 1943 when the Nazi army commander there finally surrendered disregarding Hitler’s orders for the sake of his men.
希特勒带领他已经遭受重创的军队从一次进攻到另一次进攻。但是再次低估了斯大林的军队,他面临着一次又一次的溃败。现在他完全负责东部的行动,他犯了许多战术错误,这些错误源于优柔寡断和他相信纳粹有更好的能力。1942年,他把他最好的一些部队带到斯大林格勒。斯大林也向这座城市大量增兵。1942年冬天,见证了斯大林格勒有史以来最血腥的战斗之一。双方都损失惨重。然而,斯大林的军队没有屈服。斯大林格勒战役在1943年初失败了,当时那里的纳粹军队指挥官为了他的士兵不顾希特勒的命令最终投降了。

Despite this major loss, Hitler launched another attack at the city of Kursk, which also resulted in another bloody battle in 1943. The Red Army, growing every minute from their eastern divisions and helped with the intelligence of the allies, thwarted this Nazi attempt.
尽管遭受重大损失,希特勒还是对库尔斯克市发动了又一次攻击,这也导致了1943年的另一场血战。红军从东部师每分钟都在壮大,并借助盟军的情报,挫败了纳粹的这一企图。

After this loss, Hitler could never check the Red Army, till it finally came knocking at his door in Berlin in 1945.
Hitler had greatly underestimated the tenaciousness of Stalin.
在这次失败后,希特勒再也无法检查红军,直到红军终于在1945年在柏林敲响了他的大门。
希特勒大大低估了斯大林的顽强。

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Andy De Campos, Editor at God’s War Plan
Updated Feb 10, 2018

After the invasion of the Soviet Union, Hitler privately said to his generals, at one point, that Stalin was the greatest living statesman. He admired his enemy mainly because of Stalin having industrialized Russia at breakneck speed and being very ruthless with his opponents. Indeed, Stalin was much more depraved than the German dictator.
苏联入侵后,希特勒曾私下对他的将军们说,斯大林是当今最伟大的政治家。他钦佩他的敌人,主要是因为斯大林以极快的速度使俄罗斯工业化,并且对他的对手非常无情。事实上,斯大林比德国独裁者堕落得多。

Stalin thought Hitler to be someone he could work with. He secretly admired his rise in Germany and didn’t really let the fascist ideologies stop him from liking him. Stalin always knew that the fact that he had risen through the Bolshevik ranks was just a matter of timing. He could have just as easily been a fascist.
斯大林认为希特勒是他可以共事的人。他暗暗钦佩他在德国的崛起,并没有真正让法西斯意识形态阻止他喜欢他。斯大林一直知道,他通过布尔什维克的队伍崛起只是时间问题。他很容易成为法西斯分子。

Stalin and Hitler were kindred spirits in the sense that they had a lot of similarities in their upbringing:
斯大林和希特勒志趣相投,因为他们在成长过程中有很多相似之处:

They were both from different countries than the ones that they ruled over. Hitler was from Austria, not Germany. Stalin was from Georgia not Russia.
他们都来自不同于他们统治的国家。希特勒来自奥地利,不是德国。斯大林来自格鲁吉亚,不是俄罗斯。

They both had Abusive fathers.
They were both anti-Semitic.
They both had mothers that spoiled them.
They were disillusioned, early on, with what society did not offer them.
他们都有暴虐的父亲。
他们都是反犹太人。
他们都有溺爱他们的母亲。
他们很早就对社会没有给他们的东西感到失望。

They were not officers but placed themselves as supreme commanders while disregarding basic war principles.
他们不是军官,而是把自己定位为最高指挥官,而无视基本的战争原则。

They created false flag incidents as an excuse to eliminate their opponents in mock trials or summary executions. Stalin with the murder of Kirov, Hitler with the burning of the Reichtag.
他们制造虚假国旗事件,作为在模拟审判或即决处决中消灭对手的借口。斯大林谋杀了基洛夫,希特勒焚烧了帝国大厦。

They both eliminated their initial helpers once these outlived their purpose. Hitler the SA leadership; Stalin the real revolutionaries from the Party.

一旦最初的帮手超过了他们的目标,他们都将他们淘汰了。希特勒是南非的领导人;斯大林是党内真正的革命者。

They were champions of the concentration camps.
They were not well travelled and saw the world from a small bubble.
They had physical deformities: Hitler had one testicle; Stalin had a shrivelled arm and webbed feet.
他们是集中营的冠军。
他们旅行并不顺利,从一个小泡泡里看到了世界。
他们有身体畸形:希特勒只有一个睾丸;斯大林手臂干瘪,脚有蹼。

They had marking heartbreaks: Stalin, his second wife; Hitler his niece Geli.
They were both somewhat mystic. Hitler was into German mythology, Stalin into Ivan the Terrible.
[and much more; look up a book called “Hitler and Stalin – parallel lives”]
他们让人心碎:斯大林,他的第二任妻子;希特勒是他的侄女杰利。
他们都有点神秘。希特勒迷上了德国神话,斯大林迷上了可怕的伊凡。
[和更多;查阅一本名为《希特勒和斯大林——平行生活》的书]

The fact that Hitler and Stalin admired each other is another great example that the spiritual forces overlap, in the very least, with the other factors.
希特勒和斯大林互相钦佩,这是精神力量至少与其他因素重叠的又一个伟大例子。

Note:

I can always give answers from the historic perspective, social economic and political views. However, during the last decade, the spiritual scope of things has been inescapable to me. This is why while I maintain (or begin) with the natural explanation of events, I then reinforce what I believe to be the stronger cause: spiritual good vs. evil.
我总能从历史角度、社会经济角度和政治角度给出答案。然而,在过去的十年里,精神世界对我来说是不可避免的。这就是为什么当我保持(或开始)对事件的自然解释时,我会强化我认为是更强有力的原因:精神上的善与恶。

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Ishchenko
Daniil Ishchenko, Businessman, Russian.
Answered Mar 1, 2015

“Stalin is one of the most extraordinary figures in world history. He began as a small clerk, and he has never stopped being a clerk. Stalin owes nothing to rhetoric. He governs from his office, thanks to a bureaucracy that obeys his every nod and gesture. It’s striking that Russian propaganda, in the criticisms it makes of us, always holds itself within certain limits. Stalin, that cunning Caucasian, is apparently quite ready to abandon European Russia, if he thinks that a failure to solve her problems would cause him to lose everything. Let nobody think Stalin might reconquer Europe from the Urals! It is as if I were installed in Slovakia, and could set out from there to reconquer the Reich. This is the catastrophe that will cause the loss of the Soviet Empire.”
——Adolf Hitler
“斯大林是世界历史上最非凡的人物之一。他从一个小职员开始,他从未停止过做职员。斯大林不需要花言巧语。由于官僚机构服从他的每一个点头和手势,他从办公室开始管理。引人注目的是,俄罗斯的宣传,在对我们的批评中,总是把自己限制在一定的范围内。斯大林,这个狡猾的高加索人,显然已经准备好抛弃欧洲俄罗斯了,如果他认为解决不了她的问题会导致他失去一切。不要让任何人认为斯大林可能会从乌拉尔重新征服欧洲!好像我被安置在斯洛伐克,可以从那里出发去重新征服帝国。这是一场将导致苏维埃帝国灭亡的灾难。”
——阿道夫·希特勒

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Julio Cesar Pino, Ph.D from University of California, Los Angeles
Updated Jan 23, 2017

Hitler once summed up Stalin brilliantly: “Stalin started out as a desk clerk and he is still a desk clerk.” What he meant, of course, is that Stalin thought and acted like a mediocre bureaucrat, not a statesman and visionary like himself. Curiously, this opinion was shared by Stalin’s arch enemy, Leon Trotsky, who remarked to his followers, “Stalin is a mediocrity, but he is the best mediocrity in the Communist Party.”
希特勒曾经精辟地总结了斯大林:“斯大林最初是一名办公室文员,现在仍然是一名办公室文员。”当然,他的意思是斯大林的思想和行为像一个平庸的官僚,而不是像他一样的政治家和远见卓识者。奇怪的是,斯大林的死敌莱昂·托洛茨基也持有这种观点,他对他的追随者说,“斯大林是个平庸之辈,但他是共产党中最好的平庸之辈。”

Stalin was startled by Hitler, since the Fuhrer broke the stereotype, popular even today, that all Germans are obedient and law abiding. In conversation with German journalist Emil Ludwig after Hitler came to power, Stalin laughed at how docile his German communist comrades had behaved during his one visit to Germany, before World War I, then added, “But no one would say that of the Germans today”; a back-handed way of admiring Hitler for having radically changed the German national character.
斯大林被希特勒吓了一跳,因为元首打破了即使在今天仍然流行的刻板印象,即所有德国人都服从和守法。在希特勒上台后与德国记者埃米尔·路德维希的谈话中,斯大林嘲笑他的德国共产主义同志在第一次世界大战前对德国的一次访问中表现得多么温顺,然后补充道,“但是今天没有人会说德国人的话”;钦佩希特勒从根本上改变了德国的民族性格。

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John Dewar Gleissner, Attorney (1977-present)
Answered Jan 19, 2018

They never met each other, but had diplomatic and political dealings with each other before Operation Barbarossa. They shared an amazing number of similarities. John Dewar Gleissner’s answer to To what extent were Hitler and Stalin similar dictators?
他们从未见过面,但在“巴巴罗萨行动”之前曾有过外交和政治往来。他们有惊人的相似之处。约翰·杜瓦·格雷斯纳的答案希特勒和斯大林在多大程度上是相似的独裁者?

Stalin respected Hitler, made a Non-Aggression Pact with him hoping Hitler would fight France and Britain for a long time, and trusted that Hitler would not start a two-front war by invading the USSR in 1941. In this Stalin was extremely disappointed and initially depressed. Stalin then hated Hitler with a passion.
斯大林尊重希特勒,与他签订了互不侵犯条约,希望希特勒能长期与法国和英国作战,并相信希特勒不会在1941年入侵苏联而发动一场两线战争。在这一点上,斯大林非常失望,最初也很沮丧。斯大林当时满怀激情地憎恨希特勒。

Hitler never trusted, respected or liked the USSR, the Bolsheviks or Stalin, thought Slavs were sub-human, and that the Soviet Union was part of a massive Jewish effort to pollute and degrade the Aryan peoples. By 1945, Hitler had not changed his mind, but many Germans thought by that time that the Soviets were super-human rather than sub-human.
希特勒从来不信任、尊重或喜欢苏联、布尔什维克或斯大林,认为斯拉夫人是次等人,苏联是犹太人大规模污染和贬低雅利安人的一部分。到1945年,希特勒还没有改变主意,但当时许多德国人认为苏联是超人,而不是超人。

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Akash R Nair, studied at Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi
Answered May 14, 2013

Joseph Stalin adored Hitler and believed he was a true friend. his actions led some to believe that he trusted Hitler more than the people in his Politburo.
约瑟夫·斯大林崇拜希特勒,认为他是一个真正的朋友。他的行为让一些人相信,比起政治局的人,他更信任希特勒。

He saw him as his comrade-in-arms. Much of his thoughts about Hitler were however his own creation. He never imagined Hitler would betray his trust and chose to ignore several warnings sent by Russian spies and scouts along the border. he preferred killing those very spies for ‘spreading lies’ than even for one moment considering the fact that Hitler can indeed break the alliance/pact.
他视他为战友。然而,他对希特勒的许多想法都是他自己创造的。他从未想到希特勒会背叛他的信任,并选择无视俄罗斯间谍和侦察兵沿边境发出的几个警告。考虑到希特勒确实可以破坏联盟/条约,他宁愿杀死那些“散布谎言”的间谍,也不愿哪怕是一瞬间。

He considered Hitler as a friend , but all his thoughts quickly evaporated when Germans came down heavily on Moscow.
他视希特勒为朋友,但当德国人大举进攻莫斯科时,他所有的想法很快烟消云散。

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Sean Wang
Answered Feb 10, 2017

Hitler hated Stalin and all things communist. The communists were one of the things he really seeked to get rid of, the other being “inferior” people Like Jews and homosexuals. This started from when he was in the German government. The communists were his chief rival. The Reichstag burning was blamed on the communists, which is saying something. In 1939, Hitler signed a non-aggression pact with Stalin. Despite the ten-years-of-nonaggression, he broke it after two years In OPeration Barbarossa, where he sought to eliminate the soviets and Communism in the process. We all know how it ended….
希特勒讨厌斯大林和所有共产主义者。共产党是他真正想摆脱的东西之一,另一个是像犹太人和同性恋这样的“劣等”人。这始于他在德国政府的时候。共产党是他的主要对手。国会大厦的焚烧被归咎于共产党,共产党正在说些什么。1939年,希特勒与斯大林签署了互不侵犯条约。尽管十年不侵犯,但在巴巴罗萨行动两年后,他打破了这种局面,在行动中,他试图消灭苏联和共产主义。我们都知道它是如何结束的…

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Jack Noel, Retired executive
Answered Feb 10, 2017

You don’t need Quora to find answers for this. Hitler came to hate the Communists in Germany first because the Communist Party there was his chief political rival in the first two elections he ran in. We can see how that would translate to his hatred of Communist Russia and its leader, Joseph Stalin.
你不需要Quora来寻找答案。希特勒开始憎恨德国的共产党,因为在他参加的前两次选举中,德国的共产党是他的主要政治对手。我们可以看到这将如何转化为他对共产主义俄罗斯及其领导人约瑟夫·斯大林的仇恨。

Hitler was not a man of half-measures, as we know. When he hated he went (insanely) far with it. So rather than being just “oppositional” Hitler went all-out to conquer Stalin’s Russia. Had Hitler decided to complete his conquest of France and Great Britain and then consolidate all around his expanded borders and give time for further military development: he might well have succeeded in defeating Stalin and Russia. Instead, he went berzerker and launched an invasion his own commanders knew couldn’t be logistically supported for more than a few months.
众所周知,希特勒不是一个半条命的人。当他憎恨的时候,他(疯狂地)走得很远。因此,希特勒不仅仅是“反对派”,而是全力以赴征服斯大林的俄罗斯。如果希特勒决定完成他对法国和英国的征服,然后巩固他扩张的边界,并为进一步的军事发展留出时间:他很可能已经成功击败斯大林和俄罗斯。相反,他去了贝尔泽克,发动了一场入侵,他自己的指挥官知道这场入侵在几个月内都得不到后勤支持。

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Lee Thé, works at Retired/working on a Novel
Answered Jul 13, 2014

I suspect that Stalin thought Hitler was mentally unbalanced. Stalin was a brutal tyrant and paranoid to boot but he died of old age–a sign on the face of it that he was more in touch with reality than Hitler was, who died in early middle age after biting off way more than he could chew militarily. Stalin never did that.
我怀疑斯大林认为希特勒精神不正常。斯大林是一个残暴的暴君,妄想狂,但他死于老年——从表面上看,这是一个迹象,表明他比希特勒更接近现实,希特勒在中年早期就死了,因为他在军事上吃得太多了。斯大林从来没有这样做过。

Stalin also probably was responsible for more people’s death than Hitler was, so I’m not defending him. I just think he was more a sociopath than a psychopath.
斯大林也可能比希特勒对更多人的死亡负有责任,所以我不为他辩护。我只是觉得与其说他是个精神病患者,不如说他是个反社会者。

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Quora User, works at Philadelphia Insurance Companies
Answered Apr 16, 2016

Stalin admired Hitler’s strength as a leader that was able to stand up to the West and rebuild and transform his military. He admired Hitler’s ruthlessness in eradicating his enemies in such a brutal way-just like he did in the 1930’s against the Kulachs and then the Soviet military. There are interesting similarities between these 2 madmen: both were born in 1889 and had a strong and loving relationship with their Mothers and both were beaten by their fathers multiple times. Neither trusted each other fully up to the beginning of the war. Stalin had been making plans to invade Germany but not until 1942 or 43. Germany needed to strike first before the Russians had sufficient time to maximize their strength in both men and materials. Both countries in the late 1930’s were making huge improvements to their military. Despite that, after the Soviet-German Non-Aggression Pact in 1939, allowing Hitler to invade Poland, Stalin complied fully to the terms of the agreement until June 22, 1941 when Germany invaded his country. It took 3 weeks before Stalin was able to recover from his unwillingness to accept the German invasion before he started to make decisions. The reason Hitler committed suicide in his bunker in April 1945, was his fear of being captured by the Russians and having Stalin humiliate him in public. Stalin wanted more then anything to capture his fellow dictator alive and put on a show trial in Moscow.
斯大林钦佩希特勒的力量,他是一位能够对抗西方、重建和改造军队的领导人。他钦佩希特勒以如此残酷的方式消灭敌人的冷酷无情——就像他在20世纪30年代对库拉克和苏联军队所做的那样。这两个疯子之间有着有趣的相似之处:他们都出生于1889年,与母亲有着深厚的爱情关系,都被父亲多次殴打。直到战争开始,双方都不完全信任对方。斯大林一直在计划入侵德国,但直到1942年或1943年。德国需要在俄罗斯人有足够的时间在人力和物力上最大化他们的实力之前先进攻。20世纪30年代末,这两个国家都在大幅提高军事实力。尽管如此,在1939年苏联-德国互不侵犯条约允许希特勒入侵波兰后,斯大林完全遵守了该协议的条款,直到1941年6月22日德国入侵他的国家。斯大林花了3个星期才从不愿接受德国入侵的状态中恢复过来,然后他才开始做出决定。希特勒于1945年4月在他的地堡自杀的原因是他害怕被俄罗斯人俘虏,害怕斯大林当众羞辱他。斯大林最想活捉他的独裁者同伴,并在莫斯科进行审判。

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Quora User
Answered Aug 23, 2013

They’ve hated each other. Mind you, fascists and communists hate each other, despite very near-identical leadership styles, and bloodthirsty laws.
他们彼此憎恨。请注意,法西斯主义者和共产主义者彼此憎恨,尽管他们的领导风格和嗜血的法律非常相似。

Stalin and Hitler had signed a Non-Aggression Pact in 1939, but it was soon to be broken after Germany’s invaded Russia as part of Operation Barbarrossa, in 1941. It was only a matter of time. You can’t expect two killers to like each other, regardless of how equally sociopathic they both are.
斯大林和希特勒在1939年签署了互不侵犯条约,但在德国于1941年作为巴巴罗沙行动的一部分入侵俄罗斯后,该条约很快就被打破了。这只是时间问题。你不能指望两个杀手会喜欢对方,不管他们俩有多反社会。

The pact was merely to mutually gain parts of Poland and trade oil, which would then be back to being traded for with Scandinavian nations.
该协议仅仅是为了共同获得波兰的部分领土,并进行石油贸易,然后这些石油又会被重新用于与斯堪的纳维亚国家的贸易。

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Alexey Shestov
Answered Jun 9, 2016

So here are some quotes from real people.
这里有一些真实人物的引语。

It’s said, that Anthony Eden, post-war British prime-minister, recalled the next conversation with Stalin in 1941:
据说,战后英国首相安东尼·艾登回忆了1941年与斯大林的下一次谈话:

“- Hitler is a genious but he doesn’t know when to stop.
“——希特勒是个天才,但他不知道什么时候停下来。

-Does anyone knows when to stop?
有人知道什么时候停下来吗?

-I do.”
-我知道。”

Though the only place in which I found this quote is ba ook History and the Human Condition: A Historian’s Pursuit of Knowledge by John Lukacs. So I have no reliable source for it, maybe you will find it. Or maybe it’s a myth.
尽管我发现这句话的唯一地方是约翰·卢卡奇的《历史与人类状况:历史学家对知识的追求》。所以我没有可靠的来源,也许你会找到它。或者这只是个神话。

Also Molotov, a Foreign Minister of USSR in those times, said the following about Stalin thoughts:
苏联当时的外交部长莫洛托夫对斯大林的思想也这样说:

“Stalin saw that Hitler had organized German people by a short period of time.. There had been a big Communist party [in Germany] – and it had disappeared, had been washed! Hitler led his nation, and Germans fought so that it was visible [motivation which they received from Hitler]. Because of that Stalin as a cool-headed man took this issue very seriously during the planning of the big strategy.”
“斯大林看到希特勒在短时间内组织了德国人民..德国曾经有一个大的共产党[——它消失了,被清洗了!希特勒领导着他的国家,德国人战斗是为了让他们从希特勒那里得到明显的[动机]。因为斯大林作为一个冷静的人,在制定大战略时非常认真地对待这个问题。”

This is a quote from the book “140 бесед с Молотовым”, chapter “Как Сталин относился к Гитлеру”.
这是《140беедсмолотовым》一书中的一段引文,章节为“относилсяааиулеиилу”。

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John Beatty, MA Military History
Answered Dec 12, 2016

They neither trusted nor liked each other, even though they never met. They never made a promise that they had any intention of keeping in the long term. Each thought that the other could be easily duped.
他们既不信任也不喜欢对方,尽管他们从未见过面。他们从未承诺过他们有任何长期遵守的意图。每个人都认为对方很容易上当。

They were both right, and wrong. Ironically, neither dictator really trusted anyone, both could find enemies everywhere, and regarded any personal failing in anyone but themselves as treasonous.
他们都是对的,也是错的。具有讽刺意味的是,两位独裁者都不信任任何人,都可以在任何地方找到敌人,并认为除了他们自己以外,任何人的任何个人失败都是叛国。

In sum, they were two sides of the same coin. And they hated each other for what they were: Psychopathic madmen with delusions of grandeur.
总而言之,它们是同一枚硬币的两面。他们憎恨彼此的本来面目:有夸大妄想的精神病疯子。

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Quora User, works at Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning
Answered Feb 10, 2017

Yes Hitler hated communists you can exchange Jew for communists in his writing and speeches he thought them one and the same and he wasnt too off base there. But ive seen passages where he admired Stalin himself for being ruthless in purging the Army leadership and wishing he had done the same. He also admired Stalin for his level of control. Its probable that he turned on Stalin since he couldnt trust him at his back and being that Stalin was a mass murderer even worse than himself he was probably right about doing so i think the chances were good Stalin wouldve attacked Germany the next year anyways. The War was won or lost on the Eastern Front and people dont recognize the main part played by the Russian army and people for their part in bringing down Germany. Both tyrants were financially supported by the central bankers of the West funny how you keep finding evidence of them being on both sides of these conflicts leading to the saying all wars are banker wars.
是的,希特勒讨厌共产主义者,你可以在他的文章和演讲中用犹太人来交换共产主义者。他认为他们一模一样,而且他在那里也不是太离谱。但我看到过他钦佩斯大林本人无情清洗军队领导层并希望他也这样做的段落。他也钦佩斯大林的控制水平。很可能他背叛了斯大林,因为他不能信任他,而且斯大林是一个比他自己更坏的大屠杀者,他这么做可能是对的,我认为很有可能斯大林第二年会攻击德国。这场战争在东方战线上是赢是输,人们不承认俄罗斯军队和人民在推翻德国中发挥的主要作用。这两个暴君都得到了西方中央银行家的财政支持,有趣的是,你一直在寻找证据,证明他们在这些冲突的双方,导致人们说所有的战争都是银行家的战争。

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Quora User, I’m a university-trained historian who studied this period of European history
Answered Dec 12, 2016

In september 1939. Hitler of Stalin: stupid git thinks he’s my friend. He’ll learn the truth later when I fry his ass.
Stalin of Hitler: stupid git, thinks he’s my friend. If he betrays me, I’ll fry his ass.
Hitler of Stalin in 1941: good, I’m frying his ass as was always my intention.
Stalin of Hitler in 1945: I’ve fried his ass.
1939年9月。斯大林的希特勒:愚蠢的蠢货认为他是我的朋友。我炒了他的屁股后,他会知道真相的。
希特勒的斯大林:愚蠢的蠢货,认为他是我的朋友。如果他背叛我,我会炒了他。
1941年斯大林时代的希特勒:很好,我一直在炒他的马屁。
1945年希特勒的斯大林:我炸了他的屁股。

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